Category: ISIS

Back to the Future. Leaders are meant to be inspirational who does Abbott inspire??? Oh yes ISIL

Andrew Wilkie

Howard should be tried for ‘conspiracy to commit mass murder’, says Andrew Wilkie ex Lieutenant Colonel ADF.

Howard says Wilkie an ex ADF intelligence officer ex LNP member is wrong despite being embarassed. Malcolm Fraser said it then and is still saying it now.

Independent MP says former prime minister should be ‘deeply ashamed that he lied’ over the 2003 invasion of Iraq

MP Andrew Wilkie “I was shocked to see that John Howard is only embarrassed, almost embarrassed for himself. What he should be is deeply ashamed that he lied to the Australian public 11.5 years ago, and took us into an unnecessary war, a war that has killed countless Iraqis and other people, which effectively destroyed that country and created the conditions for the rise of not just the Islamic State but other groups,” Wilkie told reporters in Canberra.

“Look frankly I’m disappointed that the prosecutor at the international criminal court hasn’t thought to hold John Howard responsible for conspiracy to commit mass murder.”

Howard argued the 2003 invasion did not play a major role in the rise of Isis which now holds large swathes of Syria and northern Iraq.

Wilkie said Howard should have made a “compelling humanitarian” case for dealing with Saddam Hussein in 2003 and told the voters the invasion was about Australia’s bilateral relationship with America, not WMDs.

When asked again if he was suggesting Howard was partly responsible for the rise of Isis, Wilkie responded “I’m not suggesting it, I’m stating it as fact”.

“If we had not gone to war 11.5 years ago, and destroyed that country and created this security vacuum, then the circumstances would not exist for Islamic State to have emerged and to grown strong and to conquer the land that it does. So yes, they are responsible.”

Who has Andrew Bolt pissed off in Melbourne? Cranks come in all different colours and creeds it only takes a trigger.When push comes to shove……

Islamic State urges killings as Prime Minister Tony Abbott warns over price of freedom

For a number of days Tony Abbott has been chattering about killing the ‘devil cult’ doing wharever it takes to stop them in their tracks. Like echos words rebound and we don’t like what we hear. ISIL couldn’t give a shit about Australia and Australians then. It does now thanks to Tony Abbott. He has left Australians the world over with a problem not just here. What is he going to do about their security?….Nothing. Malcolm Fraser said he was dangerous.

The Islamic State has urged its supporters to go out and kill Western civilians, including Australians, as Prime Minister Tony Abbott warned the nation would have to sacrifice freedoms for security against terrorism in what he called these “darkening times”.

In a chilling message posted online, the terrorist group called for indiscriminate violence by any means in countries preparing to go to war against its fighters in northern Iraq and Syria.

"Australians will have to endure more security than we're used to": Tony Abbott addresses Parliament on the terrorist threat on Monday.“Australians will have to endure more security than we’re used to”: Tony Abbott addresses Parliament on the terrorist threat on Monday. Photo: Andrew Meares

The statement, attributed to chief Islamic State spokesman Abu Muhammad al Adnani, mentions Australia three times in 11 pages of apocalyptic threats against “crusaders”.

“If you can kill a disbelieving American or European – especially the spiteful and filthy French – or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war, including the citizens of the countries that entered into a coalition against the Islamic State, then rely upon Allah, and kill him in any manner or way however it may be,” he said.

“Do not ask for anyone’s advice and do not seek anyone’s verdict. Kill the disbeliever, whether he is civilian or military, for they have the same ruling. Both of them are disbelievers.”

Abu Muhammad al Adnani, ISIL's chief spokesman.Abu Muhammad al Adnani, ISIL’s chief spokesman.

Clearly calling for followers to martyr themselves, Adnani says that if IS supporters cannot obtain a bomb or a gun to kill a Westerner, they should “smash his head with a rock, or slaughter him with a knife, or run him over with your car, or throw him down from a high place, or choke him or poison him”.

Adnani is a top figure in the militant group, having served as offical spokesman and senior leader since it rose to prominence last year.

His exhortation comes just days after police smashed an alleged plot in Sydney to kill random Australians on camera and as world leaders prepare to meet in New York to discuss how to combat the problem of foreigners travelling to Iraq and Syria to fight.

Terror laws 

Mr Abbott, who will fly to New York on Tuesday for the United Nations sumitt, made a special address to Parliament on national security and warned the “delicate balance” between freedom and security would have to be recast.

“Regrettably, for some time to come, Australians will have to endure more security than we’re used to, and more inconvenience than we’d like,” he said.

“The delicate balance between freedom and security may have to shift. There may be more restrictions on some so that there can be more protections for others. After all, the most basic freedom of all is the freedom to walk the streets unharmed and to sleep safe in our beds at night.”

The statement 

Mr Abbott welcomed Labor standing “shoulder to shoulder” with the Coalition on the terrorism threat, saying “it lets our enemies know that they will never shake our resolve”.

But Islamic State appears determined to test that resolve. Its threat against Australians is the most concrete yet.

Adnani’s statement is troubling as it tells followers they need no further approval of a Muslim cleric or from within the hierarchy of the Islamic State.

This is distinct from the approach of al-Qaeda, whose late leader Osama bin Laden maintained a tight, centralised control over violent activities. It also differs from the protocol of some previous plots in Australia, such as the plan to attack Holsworthy Barracks in Sydney, which was thwarted while the plotters were awaiting the sanction of a cleric.

Adnani calls US President Barack Obama a “mule of the Jews” and US Secretary of State John Kerry an “uncircumcised old geezer”.

The statement threatens not just to beat back any military campaign in Iraq and Syrian but also to go on the offensive, even if it takes generations.

“We will conquer your Rome, break your crosses, and enslave your women, by the permission of Allah, the Exalted,” it says. “If we do not reach that time, then our children and grandchildren will reach it, and they will sell your sons as slaves at the slave market.”

A spokewoman for Mr Abbott said counter-terrorism agencies considered the statement to be authentic.

“Australian agencies regard the statement issued today by ISIL calling for attacks against members of the international coalition, including Australians, as genuine,” she said.

“ISIL will claim that our involvement in this international effort is the reason they are targeting us, but these people do not attack us for what we do, but for who we are and how we live.”

Former British Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair gave his backing to President Barack Obama’s strategy to overwhelm IS with military force.

“The president is absolutely right to take on [ISIL] and to build the broadest possible coalition,” he said.

“We’ve got absolutely no choice but to do this, and not just in order to destroy the onward march of [ISIL] but to send a very strong signal to the other terrorist groups operating in the region. We intend to take action and see it through.”

In his address in reply, Opposition Leader Bill Shorten laid out why Labor backs war against IS.

“Labor recognises that sometimes there is simply no alternative,” Mr Shorten said. “Put plainly, we cannot negotiate with ISIL because there is nothing rational about what they seek to do. ISIL and their like wish only to do harm, to spread the bitter hatred that fuels their genocidal intent.”

Mr Shorten said he rejected the charge that Australia’s engagement in Iraq had made the country more of a target for terrorists.

 

ISIL routed the Iraqi army 800 dead. Abbott has sent our boys in to train a leaderless army. Even ISIL doesn’t understandwhy we are there

Australian trainee recruits in the Iraqi army. Will Abbott fly in to give words of encouragement?
 

Iraqi soldiers describe heavy losses as Islamic State overruns camp

(Reuters) – Iraqi soldiers described on Monday how Islamic State fighters inflicted heavy losses in a chaotic raid on a military base just an hour’s drive from Baghdad, highlighting the jihadists’ ability to attack high-profile targets despite U.S. air strikes.

Like at Camp Speicher, it remains unclear how many men were present at the base in Saqlawiya and how many are now dead and missing. However one officer who survived the raid said that of an estimated 1,000 soldiers in Saqlawiya, only about 200 had managed to flee.”This failure is not the fault of the soldiers … the mistake was that of the military leadership, they failed,” said the officer, who declined to be named due to the sensitivity of the issue.

“We were without ammunition and without food. Every time we contacted military commanders, they promised to send helicopters to air drop reinforcements but nothing happened,” said the officer, who fled to another base close to Falluja on Sunday. “We … were drinking salty well water and eating canned tomato paste.”

About 200 soldiers managed to escape the base on Sunday after battling with the militants in the area which soldiers call the “kilometer of death”.

On Wednesday, the insurgents sent a Humvee vehicle rigged with explosives into the camp. Guards mistakenly assumed that an army driver was at the wheel.

“When it exploded, it caused a lot of confusion. Islamic State exploited that and entered the camp. Now most of regiment headquarters within the base are under the control of Islamic State,” said the officer, adding that one, small army unit remained besieged in the camp.

 

Abbott has become Iran’s man on the ground.

Contradictory interests bedevil US strategy

Updated 1 Sep 2014, 4:29pmMon 1 Sep 2014, 4:29pm

To defeat the Islamic State, the United States needs to overcome not only its own split strategic thinking in the region, but also secure the support of Sunnis inside and outside Iraq and Syria. Stuart Rollo writes.

The long-term success of confronting the Islamic State hinges is securing the cooperation of Sunnis, both within Iraq and Syria, and in governments across the Middle-East. Given that G.W Bush killed 60,000 and  assisted in killing some 60,000 plus more it seems like a nigh on impossible task. How do you forgive and forget?

It will need to overcome not only its own split strategic thinking in the region, but also secure the support of its Sunni Arab allies in the Gulf States in a campaign with the essential aim of destroying the main Sunni resistance movement to two widely unpopular Shia governments, which act as proxy states of Iran.

The Islamic State’s success is due not to the appeal of its dogma, but to the local struggles between ruling Shia governments in Iraq and Syria and their disenfranchised Sunni populations.

While the ideological foundations of the Islamic State consist of a Sunni brand of fundamentalist pan-Islamism, the group’s success is due not to the appeal of its dogma, but has been the result of local struggles between ruling Shia governments in Iraq and Syria and their disenfranchised Sunni populations. Those struggles are heavily influenced by the geopolitical maneuverings of their respective Sunni and Shia patrons in the Gulf States, especially Saudi Arabia, and Iran.

Rising to prominence as “Al Qaeda in Iraq” in the immediate aftermath of the 2003 US invasion, the group weathered various political and military oscillations there, and were particularly damaged by the US-backed “Sunni Awakening” of 2006, before the 2011 Syrian uprisings provided them with unprecedented opportunity to expand and consolidate their power.

The United States maintains its stance on the illegitimacy of the Assad regime, while the Islamic State has positioned itself as the prime power in the Syrian opposition movement. The United States maintains its support for the Shiia-led government of Iraq, while the Sunni regions, long-backed by America’s closest Arab allies in the Gulf, are in open revolt, having reportedly given their support to the Islamic State.  The semi-autonomous Kurdish region has declared the intention to pursue full independence, at the same time grabbing the oil rich region of Kirkuk from the ailing government in Baghdad.

The US wishes to support Kurdish military forces in their fight against the Islamic State and the system of Kurdish autonomy within Iraq more generally, yet it is a treaty ally with Turkey, a state with a long history of suppressing movements towards Kurdish independence within its own territory, and will not support the full bid for Kurdish independence. The US finds itself navigating the difficult equation of how much arms and training it can provide the Iraqi Kurds to defeat the Islamic State, while minimising the threat that such assistance could pose to the Turkish military in the future.

Perhaps the most spectacular case of contradictory strategic interests for the United States involves Iran. Long the most powerful member of the “Axis of Evil”, and the presumed target of imminent US bombardment for years, the Islamic Republic of Iran has been cast in the current conflict as America’s least likely collaborator. A united and Shia-led Iraq is in Iran’s utmost interest, as is the retention of power in Syria of the Assad regime.

The destruction of the Islamic State goes a long way towards securing both of these objectives. The more effectively the United States combats the Islamic State, the better for Iran. The more powerful and secure Iran, the less comfortable America’s regional allies including Saudi Arabia and Israel. For this reason alone the US will find it very difficult to secure genuine, long-term, cooperation from the Gulf States in confronting the Islamic State.

The ramifications of increased US military intervention will have drastic implications on the power dynamics of the region. It is doubtful that Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and other Gulf States will be enthusiastic participants in a military intervention which will empower their bitter regional rival Iran and revitalize the ailing Shia governments in Iraq and Syria that they have worked so hard to destabilize. Without their cooperation the long-term prospects for destroying the Islamic State and securing regional peace become quite bleak.

My name is John Abdul. It must be hard for Sunnis at the moment mate. How can we help?

The fight against Islamic State is a battle for young minds

Governments around the world are trying to come to terms with the fact that their nationals – and young people in particular – are leaving to join extremist groups such as Islamic State.

The battleground against radicalisation is waged in the mind. It is here that persuasive arguments and passionate discussion appeal to the hero inside us to rise up and do something, be someone or make history.Foreign policy often provides a fertile bed of manure in which the seeds of radicalisation can grow.

What is the Australia’s foreign policy on Iraq? Those seeking to radicalise others will be able to summarise it in a single sentence. The more negative the policy is perceived to be, the less human the government or even the Australian people are perceived to be. Abbot is insisting it’s humanitarian. 6 Hornet fighters are hardly gonig to drop aid. 600 SAS troops ,our top killers, to load these fighter planes and train locals hardly seems believeable.

Radicalisation involves getting us to focus on the negative experiences we have had and the negative experiences of those we love or feel we  should love.These things happen to us because some enemy wants them to, chooses them to and allows them to.It focuses on the difference between us and them and emphasises the wrongs that they do. Australia is going to help kill Sunnis no matter who they are. They don’t care, want to distinguish or want to understand anything about the history of what’s occurred on the ground. Yesterdays raids reinforced that perception. What’s more with lazy media frenzy . Was there anyone report from the families of the raided?

Isis recruiters  lay the blame for each of the killings squarely with British and American foreign policy. The more human we can make the enemy, the less we will feel separated from them to us IS is the ‘devil cult’. Only when we stop seeing the opposition as completely different to us, can we start to be reconciled with them.The British government, on behalf of the taxpayer, donated £11.4bn in aid  with £600m set aside for the Syrian crisis alone. These kinds of figures provide useful ammunition in the battle of the mind. The apparent enemy becomes less hostile and more human. What has Australia done other than offer war cries  and identify our selves as the enemies. Does Abbott understand over 100,000 Sunnis were killed since Bush ousted Saddam. Mothers , fathers children families he created a bitter sectarian power vacuum and gave birth to ISIS. It can’t be stopped with bombs.

Some young people see no opportunity to get involved and make a difference other than by joining the jihad. It’s positive that young people are passionate about inequality, just not that they see violence as the only way to address it.  We need ways ways to counteract the messages being sent to young people by those who wish to indoctrinate them.

“If, in order to defeat the beast, we become the beast; then the beast has won”.

It’s not easy to rid people of firmly held prejudices but a consistent and reasonable argument is a better way to start than threats about removing passports or prison sentences. Todays effort just pushes young people away. 800 to lay alleged charges on one 22 year old is farcical. Why with all the media didn’t we hear the other side of the story? The families side how lazy and complicit was the media.

How to justify $650Mill, Abbott “we have no specific intel” Murdoch “Biggest Terrorist Raid IN History” This is a recruiting excercise.

Live blog: Hundreds of police mount anti-terrorism raids in Sydney and Brisbane

Updated 10 minutes agoThu 18 Sep 2014, 8:14am

Police have raided dozens of homes in Sydney and Brisbane as part of the largest counter-terrorism operation in Australian history.

The joint operation between local police, the Australian Federal Police and ASIO involves hundreds of officers and at least a dozen people have been arrested in Sydney.

Similar raids took place in Brisbane but police said it was too early to say if anyone had been arrested.

Keep up to date with the latest developments on our live blog.

ASIO and hundreds of police raid Sydney and Brisbane homes in biggest counter-terrorism raid in Australia’s history

ASIO and hundreds of police raid Sydney and Brisbane homes in biggest counter-terrorism raid in Australia’s history

ASIO and police swoop in terrorism raid

ASIO and police swoop in terrorism raid

ASIO and counter terrorism police have swooped on homes across Brisbane’s south and in Sydney this morning in what is believed to be the largest anti-terrorism bust in the nation’s history.

Several arrests have been made in the secret pre-dawn raids in Sydney but the Courier Mail understands there have been no arrests in Brisbane thus far.

Hundreds of police executed search warrants in Logan, Underwood and Mt Gravatt East along with the Sydney suburbs of Beecroft, Bellavista, Guildford, Merrylands, Northmead, Wentworthville, Marsfield, Westmead, Castle Hill, Revesby, Bass Hill and Regents Park.

Police arrest a man in Guilford this morning.

Police arrest a man in Guilford this morning.

The raid is believed to have been mounted following months of surveillance of people linked to the terrorist group Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

The Courier Mail has learned that an estimated 600 officers from the Australian Federal Police, state counter terrorism units and ASIO launched the pre-emptive strike in the early hours of this morning.

The raids and arrests are believed to have been based on the execution of multiple ASIO and AFP warrants.

It is believed that dozens of suspects have been netted, with links to a Brisbane man who was recently arrested on suspected terrorism related charges.

It is believed that a terrorist network had been planning to carry out a series of attacks in Australia.

Another man is arrested in Guilford.

Another man is arrested in Guilford.

Last week, Brisbane man Omar Succarieh, 31, was arrested and charged with terrorism-related offences following a series of raids.

He’s accused of fundraising for Syria-based extremist group Jabhat al-Nusra and helping another man, Agim Kruezi, obtain funds to fight for a terror organisation overseas.

OMAR SUCCARIEH: Bail application to be heard today

TERROR RAID: Accused ‘misses his kids’

Succarieh, who is due to apply for bail in court on Thursday, is believed to be the brother of Ahmed Succarieh, who reportedly became Australia’s first suicide bomber in Syria last year.

Logan man Kruezi, 22, has alleged links to the Islamic State group.

The raid follows the lifting of the national security alert level from medium to high last Friday by the outgoing director general of ASIO David Irvine.

One of the detainees with police this morning.

One of the detained men in the pre-dawn raids in Sydney.

It is believed the size of the raid eclipsed that of Operation Pendennis in 2005 when several hundred ASIO, AFP and NSW police arrested 13 men across Melbourne and the Sydney suburb of Bankstown, who had been planning bomb attacks in both capitals.

In Brisbane, a double story house on Creek Road, Mount Gravatt East, was among the properties raided.

One neighbour said he had lived near the family, who he described as “Middle Eastern” for more than 20 years but had rarely communicated with them.

The man said he had only heard dogs barking during the morning raid.

A number of Australian Federal Police officers remain at the address.

It has not yet been confirmed whether any arrests have been made.

An AFP spokesperson said further updates would be provided later on Thursday.

Senior government ministers were unable to shed more light on the raids, but praised the work of authorities.

“I note the security agencies, the Police, ASIO are working hard to ensure that we are safe,” Coalition frontbencher Malcolm Turnbull told ABC radio this morning.

“Our security is the consequence of continued vigilance and hard work on the part of the security agencies.

Police at the scene of a raid at Mt Gravatt East.

Police at the scene of a raid at Mt Gravatt East.

“There is no cause for being complacent about security.

“There are people, regrettably some of them in our midst, that don’t have the nation’s best interest at heart.”

Speaking ahead of this weekend’s G20 Finance Minister’s meeting in Cairns, Joe Hockey said he had confidence in the security measures in place.

“Everyone needs to make sure that with an increased threat level associated with potential terrorist attacks in Australia we have all the necessary precautions taken for both the G20 here in Cairns and also in Brisbane,” the Treasurer told Sunrise.

“But, I am very confident that all bases are covered.

“We have put a lot of effort into this for a long period of time.”

There are about 60 Australians believed to be fighting in Iraq and Syria with groups such as Islamic State, while another 100 are suspected of providing support from Australia.

Originally published as Hundreds of police in terror raids

Who are ISIL?: It is worth asking who ISIL are isn’t it?

They are home grown and taught by Americans, and us, how to fight with imported weaponry.Some were tortured in Abu Ghraib; many were sacked, outlawed, and persecuted by Jerry Bremer and Nouri al-Maliki; many saw brothers, cousins, gassed by Assad. They have lived through Shock and Awe, and Surge, the Phased Withdrawal. They have seen the corrupt, incompetent Maliki military thieving billions owed to bureaucrats and soldiers.

It is worth asking too if the Americans, who killed 40,000 of their children, where the current Malakite ‘coalition’ killed 15,000 more of their children (my estimate), and 20,000 more of their women, and, in war and peace, 60,000 of their young men – more than all the Australian dead in World War I – will be welcomed back as allies and saviours.And if Australians, who look like Americans, will be welcomed also.

The Baghdadis well knew their middle class jobs and pensions, under Bremer, would be gone soon, and their mortgages would not be paid and they would be out on the streets fighting other beggars for shelter in cardboard boxes. And that, under Maliki, neighbourhoods of Sunnis would be slaughtered, and their mosques burned.

They could see the future and the Americans could not.

The same people can see the future, now, too, and the same Americans cannot. Neither can Tony Abbott, who believed, with Howard, the WMD would soon be found, beneath a sandhill somewhere, and all would be well.

He’s as big a lunatic as that.

Destroy ISIS is a late addition to this collection. Battle Creep is nothing for this creep who has never been comfortable with peace.

Youth are the recruits, alienated, disadvantaged,disaffected, estranged, like moths to a flame join various movements in hope. The Sunni uprising is just one

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When you consider there are 12-14 billion Sunnis worldwide how many such young people are there to fill the ranks? If these young disenchanted kids feel emotionally seperated from family and friends in their world and need a sense of hope opportunity and justice  aren’t they ready to be recruited into any number of  movements. At the moment the non secular Sunni uprising is just one. Remember the Spanish civil war in the 30’s youth of the world were drawn to it like moths to a flame. At present and for sometime to come  will that flame only be confined to the Middle East. If we go rushing in where angels fear to tread as  is Abbott’s want  saying ‘god and right is on our side’ aren’t we just waving a red flag?

Do your math how many potential recruits are in that figure of billions ready to fight what they see as the forces of repression and injustice? Forces they see as ‘the dark side’. Franco’s facist forces were defending the country from the evil of socialism, disbelief in god and the German bombs gave their ground forces the advantage. There wasn’t a pool of 3-4 billion to help out. Obama seemed to have a sense of folly  but it seems he’s been pushed and  our TonyAbbott is the fastest coalition member off the blocks. Someone forgot to tell him Christian Jews & Muslims believe in the same Abrahamic God. Closed borders are difficult to protect the possible fuel he’s about to throw on this fire.

ISIS draws a steady stream of recruits from Turkey

By CEYLAN YEGINSU
The New York Times

Having spent most of his youth as a drug addict in one of the poorest neighborhoods of Turkey’s capital, Can did not think he had much to lose when he was smuggled into Syria with 10 of his childhood friends to join the world’s most extreme jihadist group.

After 15 days at a training camp in the Syrian city of Raqqa, the de facto headquarters of the group, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, the 27-year-old Can was assigned to a fighting unit. He said he shot two men and participated in a public execution. It was only after he buried a man alive that he was told he had become a full ISIS fighter.

“When you fight over there, it’s like being in a trance,” said Can, who asked to be referred to only by his middle name for fear of reprisal. “Everyone shouts, ‘God is the greatest,’ which gives you divine strength to kill the enemy without being fazed by blood or splattered guts,”

As many as 1,000 Turks have joined ISIS, according to Turkish news media reports and government officials here. Recruits cite the group’s ideological appeal to disaffected youths as well as the money it pays fighters from its flush coffers. The C.I.A. estimated last week that the group had from 20,000 to 31,500 fighters in Iraq and Syria.

So far, Mr. Erdogan has resisted pleas to take aggressive steps against the group, citing the fate of 49 Turkish hostages ISIS has held since militants took over Iraq’s second-largest city, Mosul, in June. Turkey declined to sign a communiqué last Thursday that committed a number of regional states to take “appropriate” new measures to counter ISIS, frustrating American officials.

Hacibayram, a ramshackle neighborhood in the heart of Ankara’s tourist district, has morphed into an ISIS recruitment hub over the past year. “It began when a stranger with a long, coarse beard started showing up in the neighborhood,”  “The next thing we knew, all the drug addicts started going to the mosque.”

We are further away but even there before the UK. We are the first to Jump and ask “How High”

Fools rush in: Tony Abbott joins a war without definition

Date
September 15, 2014

Committing of forces gathers pace

US Secretary of State John Kerry says countries inside and outside the Middle East have pledged military support against IS militants with some nations offering ground troops

The smart thing for Western leaders in the wake of John Kerry’s session with Arab leaders in Jeddah on Thursday last, would have been to bide their time. But Tony Abbott leapt straight in – committing 600 Australian military personnel and more aircraft to the conflict, thereby giving the Arab leaders good reason to believe that if they sit on their hands for long enough, the West will fight their war for them.
Either collectively in Jeddah or in one-on-one meetings with Kerry as in Cairo, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman and Lebanon all have baulked at making explicit military commitments to confront a force that they all see as a direct threat to their thrones, bunkers and, in one or two cases, tissue-thin democracies. With the exception of Iraq, which has no option because it is under attack at home, none has publicly committed military support.

Conversely, Abbott was coy in claiming that this new deployment did not mean that Australia was at war??? Australia has been at war since its first airlift of weapons and ammunition to the Kurdish Peshmerga in the north of Iraq last week.
Because they are on the ground in the UAE doing logistics and maintenance or in Baghdad and Irbil as military advisers certainly would not absolve any of them from being a target if IS fighters contrived to get access to them. It’s also a dramatic instance of mission-creep in a conflict bedevilled by uncertainty and missing any clear sense of a timeline or even the vague contours of what “victory” might look like.

US President Barack Obama demanded that Iraq form an inclusive, representative government before he would commit. But just three days after the new prime minister said he would behave himself, Obama had aircraft over Iraq, and we still know nothing about how different this Iraqi leadership will be from the last. There is no certainty that it will win the confidence of the Iraqi Sunni tribes.
An air war cannot succeed without a substantial boots-on-the-ground accompaniment – and that part of what Obama calls a strategy is very much on a wing and a prayer.

The Kurdish Peshmerga can fight, but they can’t defend all of Iraq. The Iraqi army, trained and equipped by Washington at a cost of hundreds of billions of dollars, is erratic and more likely to cut and run than to stand and fight. Next door in Syria, Obama is banking of the ranks of the Free Syrian Army – which for years he has complained could not be counted on, and which Washington now tries to convince us can be taken to Saudi Arabia, retrained and sent home to win the war.

Abbott must have had his hands over his ears last week as Obama spoke to the US nation and analysts around the globe distilled his words to mean a conflict that will last for years.Oddly, the Prime Minister warned Australians to prepare for a fight that might last “months rather than weeks, perhaps many, many months indeed…” Seems he’s in as much of a hurry to get into this war, as he seemingly thinks he will get out of it. He’s simply hides from the truth.

It’s not clear why. This “we must do something right now” response is likely to create a bigger mess than already exists in the region. Consider: the death of 200,000 locals in Syria failed to rouse much of a reaction in the West; but the deaths of two Americans – and now a Briton – has raised a crescendo for international war when it might have made more sense to tackle regional politicking and feuding first.

 

ISIS ISN”T ISLAMIC……Why are we giving them that entitlement? They are not a State yet we give that to them as well.

Team Islam not Team Abbott


 WE know why Abbott is going but why are the Islamic States so reluctant? What do they know that Abbott doesn’t?
(Image via @VoteAbbottOut)

ISIL is a far greater threat to other Islamic nations in its region than it is to Australia, says George Said; we should be helping them fight ISIL, not battling on their behalf.

UNDOUBTEDLY, the self appointed group calling themselves the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) has to be defeated. This can only be done when the other Sunni nations join forces to reclaim their religion and the territorial gains made by ISIL. These nations are Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Oman and even Syria. Australia should not be anxious to jump into the dispute ahead of these countries just because Abbott is failing at home.

We have had 13 years of the War on Terror and we lost that war. The West focused on Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden; the battle was won and the West lost the ideological war. The West should not have interfered with Iraq for its oil without a plan for the future.

Recently, the British Muslims had a valid point: they do not want their prime minister to refer to the terrorist group as the Islamic State. They are adamant that ISIL is not acting in their name and should be referred to as the UnIslamic State.
To quote two prominent Muslim organisations:

“We do not believe the terror group responsible should be given the credence and standing they seek by styling themselves Islamic State. It is neither Islamic, nor is it a state.”

The leadership that is required in this dispute is not that which comes from ‘Team Abbott’, but one that comes from the Muslims themselves.

Six British senior Islamic scholars endorsed the fatwa (a legal opinion on the interpretation of Islamic law) last month, describing Britons allied to Islamic State cells as “heretics” and prohibiting would-be jihadis from joining the ‘oppressive and tyrannical’ group in Iraq and Syria.

ISIL has hijacked Islam and parts of the Middle East and it is a greater threat to the Middle East Sunni nations than it is to us in Australia. We should assist these nations to do the fighting, not enter the battle on their behalf.Isis soldiers

 

What do they know what we don’t Tony Abbott?

Saturday, September 13, 2014.

Well We Have been Called

Islamic State: Australia to deploy military force to UAE to prepare for international action against militants in Iraq

Updated 17 minutes agoSun 14 Sep 2014, 3:35pm

The Federal Government is sending 600 Australian troops to the Middle East in preparation for military action against Islamic State (IS) militants in Iraq.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott said the United States had specifically requested Australia contribute to an international strike against the militants, who have captured large swathes of territory in Iraq and Syria.

Mr Abbott said around 200 troops would be sent to the United Arab Emirates shortly, including a Special Forces contingent “that could act as military advisers to the Iraqi armed forces or to the Peshmerga”.

They would be followed by around 400 Air Force personnel, up to eight super hornets, an early warning and control aircraft and an aerial refuelling aircraft.

Mr Abbott said Australia was “not deploying combat troops but contributing to international efforts to prevent the humanitarian crisis from deepening”.

“Again I stress that this is essentially a humanitarian operation to protect millions of people in Iraq from the murderous rage of the ISIL movement,” he said, using an alternative name for IS.

Force deployed to combat IS

  • 8 super hornet aircraft
  • 1 early warning and control aircraft
  • 1 aerial refuelling aircraft
  • 400 personnel to support air deployment
  • 200 military officers, including a Special Forces contingent to act as “military advisors”

“Again I stress that this movement is neither Islamic nor a state. It is a death cult reaching out to countries such as Australia.

“This is about taking prudent and proportionate action to protect our country and to protect the wider world against an unprecedented terrorist threat.”

Mr Abbott said Cabinet and the National Security Committee met earlier on Sunday to discuss the matter.

He said the action was part of an international coalition, “not simply something that is an American-Australian operation”.

“So far, there are a number of countries, western and Middle Eastern, that have indicated that they are prepared to contribute to military operations inside Iraq,” Mr Abbott said.

“The United States, the United Kingdom, France, Canada, Jordan, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, as well as Australia.”

Mr Abbott said “there are obviously further decisions to be taken” before Australian forces commit to combat action against IS militants.

“Should this extend into combat operations, it could go on for some time,” he said.

Dr Rodger Shanahan, a former Army officer who is now a non-resident fellow with the Lowy Institute, said it was hard to say how long the mission will last.

“We don’t know what the mission itself is, because it’s a precautionary deployment, but you would assume you wouldn’t deploy unless they assume they’re going to be used,” he told ABC News 24.

“We assume it’s going to be battling Islamic State. The question is how long is a piece of string? You assume this will last months at a minimum.”

Move will be a rallying cry for jihadists: Greens

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten was briefed prior to the announcement and backed the Government’s actions.

“We’re all in this together. The PM and I are partners in national security,” he said.

Greens Leader Christine Milne accused the Government of “blindly [following] the United States into another war in Iraq and Syria”.

“It’s really a shocking day for Australia that after ‘all the way with LBJ’ with the Vietnam war, after John Howard and George Bush, we now have Tony Abbott throwing in his lot with the United States and risking young Australian lives,” she said.

“Tony Abbott has made an open-ended commitment to support a new war in Iraq, no limitations on the number of people who may end up deployed, or indeed the timeframe on how long they might be there.

Analysis: Michael Brissenden

Defence correspondent Michael Brissenden told ABC News 24 it is an “open-ended” commitment.

The PM says that no decision yet has been made on actually deploying them from the base at UAE but clearly they’re being deployed there with the intent to do just that.

There will be no Australian troops’ boots on the ground as such.

Although SAS personnel will be involved in training Peshmerga and Iraqi forces and advising them and, in that sense, there’ll be boots on the ground, they won’t be involved in the combat.

The interesting thing about this though is that it is a very much an open-ended commitment.

The PM said it would be months rather than weeks. He says our contribution will … continue to be monitored continuously.

She said there was no doubt in her mind that “entering a Middle East war with the United States will be a rallying cry for jihadists to try and recruit young disaffected people against what they will propose as a western imperial drive into Iraq and Syria”.

But Dr Shanahan said that was unlikely to be the case.

“The people who are that way inclined have already decided that countries like the US, the UK and Australia are all part of some conspiracy that targets Muslims throughout the world, and so us providing armed forces as part of a coalition might reaffirm in their minds this notion that they already have,” he said.

“I don’t think it’s going to make it any more of a threat than it previously was.”

The Chief of the Defence Force, Air Chief Marshal Mark Binskin, said the safety of troops would be foremost in his mind.

“What we’re talking about here is a highly complex operating environment in the Middle East and it continues to evolve,” he said.

“We now have a fairly substantial amount of work to do in planning to undertake this deployment and that will include very careful mission planning, force preparation and importantly force protection measures for our force.”

‘Cruelty on an extraordinary scale’

Australia has previously delivered weapons to outgunned Kurdish forces and dropped humanitarian aid to communities under siege from IS.

Mr Abbott’s announcement came after IS released a video purporting to show the beheading of captured British aid worker David Haines.

The footage, described by British prime minister David Cameron as “pure evil”, followed the same pattern as videos of showing the murder of American journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff.

Mr Abbott said he reacted to the video with “shock, horror, outrage, fury”, adding that it strengthened his resolve to defeat IS.

He said IS militants were responsible for “cruelty on an extraordinary scale”.

“We’ve seen beheadings, crucifixions, we’ve seen mass executions, we’ve seen hundreds of thousands of people driven from their homes, we’ve had women forced into sexual slavery, we’ve had the deaths of very young children, we’ve had tens of thousands of people besieged on Mount Sinjar,” Mr Abbott said.

“What we have seen is an exaltation in atrocity unparalleled since the Middle Ages. All I know is that decent people everywhere regardless of their religion, regardless of their culture, should unite against it.”

Mr Abbott will visit New York on September 24 and 25 to participate in the high-level UN Security Council meeting which is to be convened by US president Barack Obama.

Last week, in a speech broadcast live to the nation, Mr Obama said he would not send US combat troops to fight IS, and that the US would act in concert with a broad coalition including Western allies and Arab states.

“Our objective is clear: we will degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL through a comprehensive and sustained counter-terrorism strategy,” the president said.

Mr Obama outlined a four-pronged strategy which included expanded air strikes and sending another 475 troops to train local forc

There 16 & 17 19 & 20 year olds some are now dead where is your suppository of intelligence ASIO?

He was a funded  recruiter ?????

 Where was our alternative recruitment drive Mr Abbott ? 

 ASIO is just a suppository for your intelligence!!

Policing with a heavy club is Neanderthall $650 Mill will take rights from all of us.

 HAS ABBOTT A MANDATE TO CREATE AN ORWELLIAN WORLD?

 

16 and 17 year old Feiz & Abdullah secretly ran away from home last June to join the fight in Syria and Iraq. Feiz has returned home. Their parents did not know where they were. When they left they told them  they were off to go fishing. It’s anybody’s guess where Abdullah is, Iraq most likely. A spokes-person for the Department of the Attorney General said  all 60 should come home

“there are safer and more legal ways of helping the people affected by these conflicts than travelling overseas to fight”

Wow this is a significantly different sound bite coming from a government department than we have heard recently. Are these really the words of the Attorney Generals Department?Is this really policy? Expanded and driven by a community of Muslim  parents you just might  have a competing and alternative recruitment agency that supports these young idealists. Yes idealists not radicals they want to accomplish some good. They needed a good reason  to stay here and help not just join your ‘death cult’. However you and ASIO had nothing to offer.

What could they do here to help? The war in Syria has been going 2-3 years in Iraq longer. ASIO has been fully aware of this.  They know that revolution against repression always attracts young idealists wanting to help and not old people. Where were our intelligence advisers? What have they been doing trying to stop these young people seaching for meaning?  If there was genuine help as the spokes -person was alluding to. Those boys and others like them would still be here and not over there. Is Abbott recruiting young Muslim boys to work in is Humanitarian Aid Drops.Probably not.

Instead the PM and all the voices behind him merely talk of increased surveillance and policing and stopping them. It’s a wonder he hasn’t put them all in detention camps as is his want with asylum seekers.

Please tell us who the above spokes-person is!!  Put them in charge  with a far smaller budget than the $650mill  and most of the 60 Australians over there now would probably still be here  helping in other ways instead of on their unwise boys own adventure. What is Abbott doing to help on the ground here? What is he doing in recruiting help from  the community most affected? Nothing!!!!!!.

ISIS Recruits do we?

What’s the most useful thing Australians can do in response to any increased terrorism alert?

The first thing is to recognize that Australia in a good place in terms of security because of the high degree of community solidarity that exists here. That means anything we do – especially any loose talk that rashly demonize entire communities based on their faiths or ethnicity – is a threat to our national security.

Shut 2GB and Newscorp down. Recharge Andrew Bolt for religious, ethnic and racial vilification again

Trust between different ethnic and religious groups across Australia and with our security authorities is the bedrock of our security, it is of vital importance. As above threaten Andrew Bolt with incitement of terrorist activity and radicalization

In making this announcement about possibly increasing the terrorism threat level, the hope would be to encourage more people to speak up, rather than keep their concerns to themselves. And if you do speak up and report those concerns, you will get a more receptive response from the authorities at the moment..This is  tantamount to dob in a friend.  One needs to trust communities and empower them not go over their heads

It might be something you see on your social networks, or in the community: if your gut reaction is that something isn’t quite right, then speak up.This is fair enough

That’s not asking people to peek through their venetians and spy on their neighbours. It’s just asking people to be thoughtful and observant; for instance, if you see a truck on your street for a couple of days that looks out-of-place, you can get someone to check it out.Talk to your neighbours first. You may offend

Or if you’re worried about your brother, or your son, or your friend who hasn’t seemed themselves lately – maybe they’ve broken off old friendships or suddenly changed their views. Be family know who your kids mix with even after they have left home

People speaking up about their loved ones and friends has been the front line of defence, saving those young people – especially young men – from going overseas and likely harming themselves and possibly others. In many cases where passports have been withheld in Australia, the tip-offs have come through the community.

When it comes to terrorism, prevention is far better than cure.

Address youth unemployment, hope & opportunity it might go a longer way in prevention than policing.  Most of the radicalized have already experienced enough policing and are looking for  better. Hope and opportunity would help. We could learn a lot from Punchbowl High

Pushed or Jumped? Who is this moderate coalition of rebels? Who is the coalition of ME states? If I donate money to our allies will I be arrested?

Responding to Syrian objections over the Administration’s plans to fly combat missions against ISIS in Syrian territory, President Obama told journalists at the White House that as far as he was concerned, Bashar Assad could “Fuck off and die.”

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In a speech to the nation last night, Mr. Obama said the United States was recruiting a global coalition to “degrade and ultimately destroy” the militants, known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. He warned that “eradicating a cancer” like ISIS was a long-term challenge that would put some American troops at risk.

“We will hunt down terrorists who threaten our country, wherever they are,” Mr. Obama declared in a 14-minute address. “That means I will not hesitate to take action against ISIL in Syria, as well as Iraq,” he added, using an alternative name for ISIS. “This is a core principle of my presidency: If you threaten America, you will find no safe haven.”

Mr. Obama specifically stated that he would not place U.S. “boots on the ground” in Iraq or Syria, which most intelligent pundits interpreted as meaning that we will have no large ground units in the Middle East like we did in the recent Iraq and Afghanistan wars, but did not preclude the use of special forces units and forward air observers.

Obama-Angry

Although Mr. Obama has received political support from both parties on his policy statement, some pundits on the far right, particularly those who depend on Fox News for their income, have criticized the President for not going far enough. In addition, several members of the wing nut radio talk show crowd, along with former members of the Bush Administration, continue to blame Obama for the whole situation.

“The Bush Administration and its cheerleaders caused this clusterfuck by invading Iraq in the first place,” said White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest. “Anyone who listens to Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity on this subject needs his head examined anyway. They’re best bet is to shut the fuck up, that way they won’t sound so ignorant.”

Australian Enemy or Ally? ; US Ally ; Is US now our Enemy or Ally? ; = Brisbane Bookshop owner ?????

The Syrian opposition coalition rebels are prepared to join the US in opposition to ISIS. Will the two Australians   arrested in the Brisbane bookshop be charged with consorting with the enemy or congratulated with helping our allies in the fight  against ISIS?  If charged  will the USA become our enemy?  Well done ASIO  & Scott Morrison keep running around in circles pointing out the baddies. Scott maybe you can turn this into an ‘on land’ operation or have them found dead in custody in order to start a 2year inquiry.

The USA will support a coalition of terrorists in Syria to fight ISIS. Will ASIO and Scott Morrison face a case of false arrest and have to prove themselves innocent?

Obama has been forced into a difficult choice who will get guns hands up if you know

Syrian Kurdistan Kurdish self-administration
and allies
Syria Syrian National Coalition Armed Forces

Allied armed groups

Armament support:

Non-lethal military support:

Rearmed and rearranged our allies are the beheaders Will Abbott call this a win??

Iraq’s Shiite militia, Kurds use U.S. air strikes to further own agenda

A Kurdish Peshmerga fighter moves into position while firing into Baretle village (background), which is controlled by the Islamic State, in Khazir, on the edge of Mosul September 8, 2014. REUTERS/Ahmed Jadallah

A Kurdish Peshmerga fighter moves into position while firing into Baretle village (background), which is controlled by the Islamic State, in Khazir, on the edge of Mosul September 8, 2014.

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Helped by the United States and Iran, Kurdish forces and Shi’ite militia are finally beating back Islamic State militants who overran most Sunni Arab areas in northern and central Iraq nearly three months ago.

But the aftermath illustrates the unintended consequences of the U.S. air campaign against Islamic State.

Kurdish and Shi’ite fighters have regained ground, but Sunni Muslims who fled the violence are being prevented from returning home.

Rather than help keep the nation together, the air strikes risk being used by different factions for their own advantage in Iraq’s sectarian and ethnic conflicts. Yet again with weapons supplied by the West.

The fallout also risks worsening grievances that helped Islamic State find support amongst Iraq’s Sunnis. It allows the militant group to portray the U.S. strikes as targeting their minority sect.

The unlikely coalition of Kurdish peshmerga fighters, Shi’ite militias and the U.S. air force have won for the moment. But the Sunni villagers,

“There is no way back for them: we will raze their homes to the ground,” said Abu Abdullah, a commander of the Shi’ite Kataib Hizbollah militia in Amerli.

 

The area is now held by Kurdish peshmerga and Shi’ite militia, who have become the most powerful forces on the ground, rather than the Iraqi army, whose northern divisions collapsed this summer when Islamic State attacked leaving the US weapons behind for IS.

Sunni civilians have now fled, fearing for their lives.

“If a regular army were holding the area we could return, but as long as the militias are there we cannot,” said a 30-year-old displaced Sunni resident “They would slaughter us on the spot.”

He admitted some villagers had supported IS, but said it was only one or two for every 70 to 80 households, and that the rest were innocent civilians who were too scared to stand against the militants or had nowhere else to go.

A non aligned family had their son kidnapped. The next time they saw him was in a video on the internet captioned “arrest of an Islamic State member”, which appears to show their son being beheaded by Shi’ite militia fighters.

 

“We cannot return. Even if the Shi’ite army and militia withdraw, Islamic State will come back and the same will happen all over again,” said the mother.

 

“Since there is no confidence between Sunni and Shi’ite any more, they need guarantees from a third party, maybe the Kurds, then we can live peacefully together again, as we were.”

 Sunni Arabs are also feeling a backlash in villages where they used to live alongside Kurds, who accuse them of collaborating with Islamic State. Kurds, who are also mostly Sunni but identify first and foremost with their ethnicity Kurds no longer trust Arab Sunnis enough to live with them.

“All my neighbors were Arabs. Now most of them are with Islamic State,”

 

But even during the operation, there were cracks in the coalition: Shi’ite militia and Kurdish forces fought under their own banners and the least visible flag was that of Iraq.Now that the common enemy has been pushed back, the alliance is unraveling. Kataib Hizbollah, which controls access to Amerli, is denying Kurds entry to the town and one peshmerga commander described the militia as the “Shi’ite IS”.

The tensions reflect a struggle for territory which the Shi’ite-led government in Baghdad claims, but the Kurds want as part of their autonomous region in the north of the country.All with a renewed armoury

 

ISIS Is Not Medieval It Actually Converges With What Andrew Bolt Would Have Us Believe

There seems to be a general assumption that the Islamic State is motivated by a Medieval  Ideology which is far from the truth. Firstly it’s young there’s generational break from their fathers. This applies to the Western and Middle Eastern Jihadis alike. We call it “medieval”  only because we see it as being radically different. Abbott just does not realize that the older generation of Muslims their parents  are  just as confused as he is. They to ask the question why has this happened? We are at one on this.

The ISIS claim is that one can only be a Muslim in an Islamic State sounds less from the Koran than from the French Revolution which in itself was the secularization of an idea that had its origins in European Christianity. “There is no salvation outside the church” This idea became transformed with the birth of the modern European states into ‘outside the state there is no legal person-hood” This idea demonstrates its power today. Look at the way we treat refugees, gypsies or persons without documentation. Morrison regards them in such a way the UNHRC has drawn world attention to it

Still today French government agencies are prevented by law from collecting data about ethnicity, considered a potential intermediary community between state and citizen. Islamists present themselves as true to their religion, while their parents, so they argue, are mired in tradition or “culture” . It’s why so many diverse individuals have come together to fight. Nobody seems to try to address this question of how it’s possible. Andrew Bolt believes race, ethnicity, and the cultures that accompany them get in the way and constantly tries to prove the same.  A few steps further to the right Bolt could well be ISIS

If  Islamic State is profoundly modern, so too is its violence. IS fighters do not simply kill. They seek to humiliate as we saw last week as they herded Syrian reservists wearing only their underpants to their death. They seek to dishonour the bodies of their victims, have we forgotten Abu Ghraib and the total humiliation of prisoners by the American coalition forces.

Saudi Arabia Our Ally Beheaded 79 People last Year Some Foreigners

 

 

‘Forgive me if I see Tony Abbott’s trumped up fear and warmongering for what it is — the last ditch attempts of an unpopular prime minister to gain some support in a country that is sick of his political posturing. It’s the George Dubya Bush school of crisis management — concoct a war, ramp up the terror and let fear and loathing for the unseen enemy unite the country behind he who so bravely leads the charge.’ Sophie Love

 Saudi Arabia Our Allies Beheaded 79 people in 2013 foreigners were amongst them

And because we are so isolated in our own homes, cars, and offices, it is easy to convince the vast majority that there is a terrible terror threat ‘out there’. That we are under attack.

That “they hate us” and want to bring us down.  In February 2003. Over a million people  could see that Bush and Blair’s considered oratory and fear mongering was a web of lies, masking simpler and more sinister political and private industry needs. The same people are falling for the LNP spin and rhetoric. Have we learned nothing?

Wake up, my friends, this is just the last ditch efforts of a floundering government to win friends and influence people. Don’t be a patsy to their political bravado. Watch what the other hand is doing. Sophie Love

ISIS are a long way from here. Quite frankly we have more to fear crossing the road or driving our cars. The current Government seems to want to close our open and generous hearts with all the rhetoric about the threat to our shores, the terror threat, the budget emergency… fear and loathing in Australia.

The Australia I chose 27 years ago was one of hope, open hearts, open minds and welcoming arms. Please don’t change… Sophie Love

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How quickly it begins. Holiday Departures

Why didn’t it make the front page news that the Federal Government paid for new airline tickets for a young Melbourne couple travelling to Malaysia on holiday? Why was the husband  removed from the flight and questioned for five hours before being released? Is this too going to be a matter of secrecy ‘an on land matter’? Or is this mornings report in The Age fantasy?It does however highlight a number of issues but mainly our Intelligence.

Thousands of Australian Muslims will be going on annual pilgrimage to Mecca next month. Thousands how will security deal with this without looking like  unintelligent fools. Double pay  all their airline tickets or just pick someone at random? If anybody is caught carrying a newspaper  reporting  Middle East news will they be stopped even worse if the paper is in Arabic a language border patrol can’t read.

Intelligence doesn’t have enough room  or personnel to hold the 1000’s of Australian Muslim suspects even 100 would be difficult. Intelligence could ferry them to  detention centres or Team Australia recruiting offices. After all it’s what we did with German and Japanese Australians during WW2. However we don’t have the Intelligence to question these would be travelers as officers aren’t sufficiently qualified yet.

Scott Morrison assured radio listeners that those with legitimate reasons for traveling should not be concerned. Well going on holiday to Malaysia it seems an  insufficient reason to be stopped. Maybe the young man looked a little pissed at the untrained official asking why he was going and that’s why he was questioned for 5 hours.

“I would expect my agencies to be acting with sensitivity and common sense regardless of who they are,where they are from,and where they are travelling” Scott Morrison

Five people have been stopped recently and prevented from leaving the country. Do we know on what grounds of course not. If I was leaving Australia and had reports about ISIS on my ipad in order to get a better understanding of what was going on would I be stopped and questioned ?

Instead of hassling Australian citizens wouldn’t ASIO, Border Protection make better use of their Intelligence gathering for National Security   by taking in for questioning the  Andrew Bolts of this world who are stirring up a hornets nest of ethnic and religious hatred. for political support. Maybe it was time the media was examined on the front page about its constant scare-mongering and the dividing the people of this country. How is Andrew Bolt’s anti Muslim stance supporting the notion of  a united Australia it stands juxtaposed  to being the ‘most livable’ and ‘most friendly’ country. I certainly see no Intelligence in questioning citizens in and out of this country. It’s going to fuck airline profits, and worse threaten our 3rd or 4th largest export education both employment and fee wise. Now that’s Intelligence

Hallmarks of a Force Lead by Saddam’s Men. ISIS a Sunni Caliphate in a Shia Sea Will They Try to Build?

ISIS has consolidated it’s position across Syria and Iraq even eliminating opposition groups with the same goals such as the FSA in Syria. With the fog of confusion lifted the reality remains whether any rapprochement is possible with Assad and the new Iraq Government. ISIS is now calling for professionals to help consolidate their Sunni caliphate. Unlike previous rebel groups ISIS has the hallmarks of Saddam’s military invasion with it’s specific goals,targets and logistics & bringing together a growing coalition of support.

 “It really is all guesswork at this stage,” said Sakhr al-Makhadhi, a British-Arab journalist and Syria analyst. “The Islamic State recently called for professionals – doctors, engineers and such – to move to its territory, so it’s clear that they view this as a long-term state building project. What this shows is that they’re lacking certain skills. They may have the manpower to fight, but not to build a state.”

It is Muslims in the Middle East who have most to worry about from the Islamic State. The decapitation of the journalist James Foley doesn’t change anything – the number of Iraqis executed by Islamic State fighters is far, far more. In a very short time the Islamic State has become the most compelling and attractive organisation for Muslim fighters around the world, more so than AL-Qaeda ever was.

For countries where Muslims are a minority like Australia paranoia has developed. The impact of this phenomenon on community relations – in Australia, Canada, India, the US, and Europe – could be devastating. Abbott for his own political advantage is calling for National Unity in the hope of restoring flagging polls. Once again, suspicions will easily be raised by Islamophobes like Andrew Bolt about Islamic State sympathisers in the west and whether they pose a threat. The news media will undoubtedly report on Australian, American or European Muslims joining the group or calling for violence in videos, further raising tensions and besmirch the Muslim faith. These very actions help recruit sympathizers amongst Australians being disparaged.

The group has prompted bomb blasts and fighting in Lebanon, and in Jordan and Kuwait the governments are worried that sleeper cells may attack at any moment. But it is Saudi Arabia that is on high alert, worried that the Islamic State group will come after them with force. In a recent interview, a senior Islamic State defector said their next stop would be Saudi Arabia, which includes Mecca and Medina. Its rulers are now in full panic, sending money to the Lebanese army, funding UN counter-terrorism efforts, and even getting senior Muftis to condemn the group. And there is  reason for this panic. However for the moment their focus is firmly on the Middle East states.

The Islamic State is a direct descendant of AL-Qaeda, but there is one key difference: Its leaders believe fighting “apostates” is more important than fighting non-Muslims for now. They want to unite the Middle East under their banner before truly turning their sights on the US and Europe. In the eyes of many jihadis, the Islamic State has established the most successful and feared caliphate in recent history.

President Obama calls the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant a “cancer.” Hassan Nasrallah, leader of Lebanon’s Hezbollah, describes ISIL as a “monster.” Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh, Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, ranks al-Qaeda and ISIL, also known as ISIS, as “Enemy No. 1″ of Islam. And President Hassan Rouhani of Iran warns Muslim states to beware of “these savage terrorists,” for “tomorrow you will be targeted,” too, by ISIL.

The unanimity of hatred and fear toward the ISIL militants rampaging through Syria and Iraq is testament both to the threat they pose and to an unusual opportunity. Not since Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait 24 years ago have the region’s most powerful players expressed such animus toward a common enemy. That’s because ISIL’s goal of replacing national boundaries in the Middle East with a Sunni Muslim caliphate threatens not just the usual “infidels”—Christians, Jews, Shiites, and other non-Sunni Muslim minorities—but the nation-states themselves.

 But make no mistake: The real threat from the Islamic State is to other Muslims in the Middle East. Sooner or later people across the Middle East will have to face up to this threat.

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