Tag: Mundine

Old Dog Thought- ASTIC was listened to then the Howard LNP closed it down. Abbott removed $500 M the promised funding. Funding that Dutton Promises to restore after 10years. This is the Yo-Yo The No Campaign says works

Fighting Fake News with Real,28/9/23, Who Has a Voice?, Mundine, Pezzullo, Dan Andrews, Educators in the Age of Tyranny, When women are Suspect among Others,

The Republican Party has a White Nationalism Problem that Isn’t Going Away

Does this remind you of anyone?  “No Australia” you should feel ashamed for yelling “Reverse Racism” It simply doesn’t exist.

Donald Trump is then shown at a rally (with several Black people behind him wearing “Blacks for Trump” T-shirts) saying about Covid treatments, “If you’re white, you have to go to the back of the line. Discriminating against white people!” Again, there’s a cut to Duke stating, “There is racial discrimination going on right now in this country against massive numbers of white Americans.”

Source: The Republican Party has a White Nationalism Problem that Isn’t Going Away

Warren Mundine would ‘consider seeking’ spot on Voice amid Peter Dutton’s Marcia Langton claims | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

Warren Mundine is a leading No campaigner but would consider seeking a spot on the Voice. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Gary Ramage

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton says Marcia Langton would have ‘all the power’ under the Voice. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Martin Ollman

Listen to words out of the mouths of these two “No” advocates if you listen are the same sounds, declared as logic, we hear from Donald Trump. Mundine ignores history and any notion that there’s a difference between what’s right and wrong. He simply declares there is an “equivalence”, and “good and bad are on both sides” of Yes and No campaigns when they’re not. Trump said that after Charlottesville when his supporter drove his car into a crowd injured people and killed a woman.

The word “listen” has no place when Mundine says “We will fix Aboriginal community problems trust us and simply say “No” to their request for a Voice. Words, heard over and over again for more than 10 generations by Governors, Churches, and bureaucrats. Promises made and more often than not broken without any beneficial outcomes by successive governments. Einstein’s definition of insanity takes pride of place in his proposal. History has shown a trail of failed outcomes time and time again leaving Indigenous Australians at the bottom of every social metric. It’s with shame that any concept of a universal human right in Australia is ignored.

Peter Dutton is simply worse at fear-mongering with his simplistic claim of “it’s reverse racism” Racism against the kin of those kind-hearted white colonists now being terrorized. Invaded by Activists, Academics, Unionists, and Commies. Any Woke argument that the colonizers never had the best interests of Australian Aborigines at heart only their own is simply fake. He’s recruited Jacinta Price to hide behind and say that “Colonisation was the best thing that ever happened to Indigenous Australians.” Again this is the very argument Trump runs when African Americans cry Black Lives Matter he cries White Lives Matter.  When any attempt at examining the statistical truth of that reality is made both Trump and Abbott bounce back it’s “lifestyle choices” and blame them

Dutton’s argument that any systemic racism in Australia is Fake, only driven by ” left-wing activists” who want to tear Australia apart is supported he maintains by listening to  Price and Mundine” who like Dutton supposedly speak for a crowd of unnamed First Nations peoples who are never seen to stand behind them. On the other hand, the Yes advocates have listened to a Voice. One that Australia saw develop over 6 years of discussion by hundreds of Indigenous Australians who were elected to come together and provide us with their humble request in the form of the Uluru Statement which was then instantly rejected by the LNP. Now that’s “listening” like British Colonizers have always done. Whenever Human Rights are raised in Australia the LNP tells the UNAHRC they’re “not needed” along with the chorus of Murdoch’s choir making us seem we stand shoulder to shoulder with Russia China and Nth Korea.

Leading No campaigner Warren Mundine says he would consider vying for a spot on the Voice should the referendum succeed on October 14.

On Thursday, Mr Dutton returned serve, branding Ms Langton’s language as “vitriolic” and “bitter”, and claiming Yes campaign members would be appointed to the Voice advisory body.

“Well, I think they’re just providing, you know, a sort of a look through the window of what the Voice might be as a body – if it’s successful on October 14, it will be divisive,” he told Nine Radio host Ray Hadley.

“You hear it in the language of Marcia Langton, but some of the others as well … members on the (Yes) committee who have got union affiliations or Labor Party backgrounds or sympathisers to the communist cause.

“These people are the ones who would have all of the power under the Voice that the Prime Minister is proposing,” Mr Dutton said.

Mr Mundine said no matter the result on October 14, Australia would be “polarised”, but pleaded for both sides of the campaign to end the “vitriolic arguments and fights”.

“My concern is that we don’t wake up on Sunday (October 15) and the whole place is on fire. We really want people to know, no matter what the decision is, that it’s a democracy,” he said.

“People will make that choice and we must all accept it. And we must then work together to deal with the issues that are happening in Indigenous communities.”

Source: Warren Mundine would ‘consider seeking’ spot on Voice amid Peter Dutton’s Marcia Langton claims | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

Mundine, Price falsely claim Millwarparra man as Vincent Lingiari’s grandson to push No campaign | SBS NITV

FAIR AUSTRALIA STEWART LINGIARI WEB HERO V2.jpg

In a pathetic justification, Warren Mundine continues to try to insist the man he and Price falsely claim to be Lingiari’s grandson is,  Mundine even in the face of his denials says “you don’t know Aboriginal culture”!! It seems Mundine knows more than the man himself. All in an effort to justify his misguided and false Fair Australia ad. The ad he and Price used in their vote “No” campaign. Mundine and Price are proof positive that not all Indigenous Australians represent or acknowledge the history of their peoples. They speak for themselves yes, but not for the First Nations of this country.

A Millwarparra man has said he did not know what the Voice to Parliament was when he was filmed reading anti-Voice sentiments that were written for him.

Source: Mundine, Price falsely claim Millwarparra man as Vincent Lingiari’s grandson to push No campaign | SBS NITV

A pat on the head for Mundine and Price – » The Australian Independent Media Network

As Linda Burney MP put it: “Leadership in an Aboriginal cultural context is not given or measured by how much media you get or if you earn big money. True Aboriginal leadership does not come from high-level appointments or board membership. It doesn’t come from and cannot be given by white constructs. Leadership is earned; it is given when you have proven you can deal with responsibility and you understand that responsibility’.”

Aboriginal people are not one homogenous mob and we must listen to different ideas but ignoring root causes and suggesting that Aboriginal culture itself is to blame is a cop out.

The preselection of Warren Mundine and Jacinta Price is a reward for their advocacy of “old white fella” policies.

They have chosen the comfort and support that comes from aligning yourself with those who hold and wield the power whilst seemingly blaming Aboriginal people for their own oppression.

Whilst they might speak about issues affecting Aboriginal communities like domestic violence and unemployment, I have yet to hear either of them offer any recognition of how the past has influenced the present let alone any positive suggestions on how to create change for the future.

via A pat on the head for Mundine and Price – » The Australian Independent Media Network

Scott Morrison’s ‘own goal’ on Warren Mundine creates new enemies and splits MPs – Politics – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Warren Mundine (left) and Scott Morrison (right) speak at a press conference on the New South Wales South Coast.

via Scott Morrison’s ‘own goal’ on Warren Mundine creates new enemies and splits MPs – Politics – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Further west we go, the worse it gets for First Peoples by Gerry Georgatos November 2nd, 2014

Chair of the Indigenous Advisory Council, Warren Mundine

Extensive and acute poverty is usually borne of ‘racial’ divides, a theme the world over. Here in Australia, the First Peoples have it worst. If we get the justice right for First People we get it right for everyone. Migrant cultures are hit by poverty and pressures disproportionately higher than the rest of the Australian population but even so it is nothing like the chronic poverty and marginalisation faced by a third of this continent’s First People. But the poverty faced by First Peoples is not the same right across the nation. The further west one journeys across the continent the worse it gets for First Peoples – and the further west the worse the racism.

But the Chair of the Indigenous Advisory Council, Warren Mundine was quoted in The Australian by journalist, Patricia Karvelas, “Not even the poorest people in Australia live anywhere near extreme poverty.”

I could not believe that Mr Mundine would make that claim when I know he has seen the acute poverty. He was arguing that the real poverty was welfare dependence. Well, this is not true, there is no “welfare dependency” but there is a third-world-akin poverty which many people are languishing within. Mr Mundine said to Ms Karvelas, that the ‘welfare dependency’ that he perceives “is nothing more than State-sponsored poverty.” I would have argued that the third-world-akin poverty is State-sponsored.

Today, Mr Mundine and I took to Twitter, alongside quite a few others. Our tweeting escalated, drawing in many. We engaged on his claims that in effect there is no semblance in Australia of third-world-akin poverty.

Celeste Liddle tweeted, “I’ve never read such goona in my life.”

Amy McQuire tweeted, “He lives in a different world.”

Michael Gravener tweeted, “Did WM really say that?”

And so it went.

Mr Mundine tweeted, “I grew up in poverty. But ‘extreme’ poverty ($1.25 per day) doesn’t exist in Oz.”

Then he tweeted, “It’s obvious none of you have a clue what extreme poverty is.”

Then I tweeted.

“Seriously, are you writing this to me? Warren, let us do a public panel.”

Third-world-akin poverty in Australia is not about $1.25 per day. We are the second wealthiest nation per capita, with the highest median wages in the world, and therefore we have cost of living pressures that the marginalised cannot by any means cope with. But shanty-living in Australia is the equivalent of what you would find anywhere in the world. I tweeted a suite of statistics and images that I believe demonstrate significant ‘extreme poverty’ in this otherwise wealthy Australia.

My tweets included, “Warren, will you come to the shanty towns with me?”

“60 reported suicides per year in the NT & Kimberley.”

“Where do the imprisonment and suicide rates come from?”

“The more west we journey, the worse the racism.”

Mr Mundine responded, “You think if I see the poverty in Aboriginal communities then I’d agree with you? I’ve seen it. It’s why I hold the views I do.”

I responded, “I know you have seen it.”

“Warren, you have a power & leverage few have, you can push for changes others cannot, real changes and without assimilation.”

And on it went.

There should be no denying the discriminating extreme poverty in this nation. It is borne exclusively of racism. How do we know this? Look at the move-on notices by police to First Peoples in every State and Territory. In one 12-month period in Western Australia, 10,000 move-on notices were handed out to First People, who are less than 80,000 of the State’s population. Compare the arrest and imprisonment rates. Compare the homelessness rates. Compare the poverty indicators and measures. Look at the life expectancy, premature death and suicide rates. Without fail the more west we go, the worse it gets. We finish up in Western Australia where it is worse than anywhere else. The Northern Territory follows, then South Australia.

How do we know Western Australia is the backwater of racism? We only have to look at what legislation and policies have been implemented in each State and Territory. We only have to look at how each State and Territory disburses its wealth. When it comes to First People, Western Australia, the Northern Territory and South Australia have no choice but either to lie or to hang their heads in shame.

The number of people in Western Australian jails for unpaid fines soared 600 per cent in the past five years, with the brunt borne by First People. But in New South Wales this practice was outlawed in 1988. Twenty-six years after the NSW Government’s decision to stop jailing people for fine defaults, which should really be a civil matter rather than a criminal issue, Western Australia, the nation’s wealthiest jurisdiction, continues to jail fine defaulters. Fine defaults are obviously predominately the result of poverty but Western Australia is going after the poor like no other State or Territory in this nation. The most marginalised are First People. The majority of Western Australia’s impoverished are First People. So yep, well once again proportion to total population it is majorly First People finishing up in Western Australian jails. Criminalised for the most minor of offences, many are broken by the vicious prison experience. Suddenly they are ‘criminals’ and many find themselves reoffending, going back to prison on serious offences.

Listen here – SBS Radio – World News Radio – “Unpaid fines leading Indigenous over representation”

In Western Australia, fine defaulters jailed have gone up from 194 in 2008 to 1,358 in 2013 – more than 600 per cent in five years. The jailing of First People in Western Australia increased from 101 to 590, but First People only comprise 2.6 per cent of the Western Australian population. But they comprise 46 per cent of the Western Australian prison population.

In Western Australia, First People are 22 times more likely to be jailed than the non-Aboriginal population. Whatever lens you look through, you can see it is a racialised issue. Or in a nutshell, rather than the reductionist ‘racialised’, it is racism.

Let us look at Western Australia’s jailing rates. How bad are they?

According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics 2014, the Northern Territory had the highest jailing rate – 850 prisoners per 100,000 adult population. That is one of the world’s top ten jailing rates. Western Australia follows with 264 prisoners per 100,000 adult population. But the true picture is there to see if we disaggregate the data. I began this 10 years ago during the first of two separate Masters on various racialised issues.

According to the ABS, the highest jail rate of First Peoples for the June quarter 2014 was recorded in Western Australia – 3,661 First People per 100,000 per adult First People population. Yes, it is true! Is there anyone who would dare to suggest that this is not racialised imprisonment, that this is not racism? The Northern Territory jail rate of adult First People is 2,861 per 100,000, while South Australia’s is 2,388. Yes, the more west we journey across the continent the worse it gets for First Peoples.

The Western Australian jail rate of First People adult males often surpasses 4,000 prisoners per 100,000 First People population. The mother of all jailers, the United States, jails its adult male Black population at around 4,000 per 100,000. Australia’s national jailing trend does not come within cooee of the American national trend. So how is it that Australia’s First People are incarcerated at rates comparable with the United States, the toughest jailer on the planet? How is it that Western Australia competes and often beats the mother of all jailers, the United States, for the world title of the mother of all jailers of a minority, or of a particular ‘racial’ group?

One in 13 of Western Australia’s First People adult males are in jail.

View this – ABC 7:30 Report – “Aboriginal deaths in custody bring focus to disturbing rate of imprisonment”

One in 13 of adult males of First People languishing in jail equates to racism. Logically, therefore Western Australia’s existing laws have a racist bent when compared to the rest of the nation. Who is responsible for these laws? The parliamentarians are ultimately responsible. We can blame many, including the media, the State’s institutions, et cetera, but ultimately the buck stops with the parliamentarians – with the Government(s).

Seven per cent of Western Australia’s Kimberley region is homeless, nearly 100 per cent of that homelessness comprised of First People. How can this be possible in the nation’s richest State? Australia is the world’s 12th largest economy, 2nd wealthiest nation per capita, and boasts the world’s highest median wages. Western Australia is the richest jurisdiction of this very wealthy nation. But where is the fairness? I am not writing about classicism but of social inclusion. Racially, there are people missing out.

Read Here “My Country – but look how I am forced to live”

There is no excuse for the third-world-akin impoverishment of First Peoples in this vast continent that too few parliamentarians are prepared to sustain a dialogue about. Tens of thousands of First People languish in shanty-towns, in corrals of misery. The Northern Territory and Western Australia are littered with these corrals. But it is Governments that have cheated them. They deny them an equality of investment. Governments argue they are not sustainable, that they are too expensive to maintain – that they should be closed down and the residents relocate to the towns and cities. But it is the Governments who help along the miners cheat these communities of their due. We can keep on beating around the bush, but this is cheap racism. The cheating of these communities of their due is ugly racism.

We can smash in the shocker statistics, the exhaustive narratives, the images that prove the third-world akin-conditions far too many First People are corralled in but why should we have to? Let us not deny truth and hence never discuss what should be the ways forward.

Let us begin having a good look at ourselves, this nation and who we should be, that is who all of us should be.

Other articles:

25.4 billion spent on Aboriginal disadvantage is a lie

Close the Gap failed

Australia’s Aboriginal children – the world’s highest suicide rate

Western Australia – mother of all jailers

Australia – the mother of all jailers of Aboriginal People

Mulrunji – ten years ago, the 147thBlack death since the Royal Commission

340th death since end of the Royal Commission

Death in police custody – Custody Notification Service should be implemented nationwide

Six homeless children fighting for a better tomorrow

996 Aboriginal deaths by suicide – another shameful Australian record