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He’s labelled it ‘the weirdest waste of Australian money since every Baz Luhrmann movie ever made’.
Source: John Oliver Rips Into Australia’s ‘Toxic’ Same Sex Marriage Postal Survey
Tony Abbott, who is scheduled to deliver a speech in the US to a Christian foundation called Alliance Defending Freedom, is unlikely to let the matter drop, particularly the freedoms angle.
Source: Think the same-sex marriage debate will be over on November 15? Think again
Comprehensive review in Medical Journal of Australia concludes main threat to same-sex parented children is discrimination
In September 2016 the then Liberal senator Cory Bernardi said businesses should be allowed to discriminate against patrons “for any or no reason”, including but not limited to the right to refuse gay weddings.
Source: Marriage equality opponents call for broad right to discriminate | Australia news | The Guardian
If there is ever a moment in time when a vast spectrum of Australian religious institutions and their lobby groups should shut right up about the protection of children, it is now, in the wake of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.
Source: The church has forgotten an inconvenient truth in its opposition to same-sex marriage
Craig Hoelscher, 48, is accused of punching Sean Foster in Brisbane, leaving the 19-year-old with a forehead wound
Diocese says it is ‘deeply sorry for any harm we have done’ by words and behaviour ‘that have not displayed the love of God’
Source: Perth’s Anglican church offers ‘heartfelt apology’ to LGBT community | World news | The Guardian
A young gay man shares vivid memories of being bullied over his sexuality, as he accuses Australia’s political leaders of failing to protect society’s most vulnerable people in the same-sex marriage debate.
Nearly half of those polled say they have mailed their survey form back, and 64% of those say they voted yes
Source: Support for marriage equality rises in Guardian Essential poll | Australia news | The Guardian
Macklemore has previously described Same Love as a song that “deals with equal rights, human rights” for LGBTI people. “This is an issue that I feel strongly about, that I feel passionate about. These people are human beings that should have the exact same rights as everybody else,” he said.
The country passed the marriage law in June.
The “no” side has a list of consequences it claims will arise from same-sex marriage: but do they stack up?
Source: Testing the many claims of the same-sex marriage campaign
But where Bishop Coleridge goes off the rails, is in thinking that same sex couples do not feel the same love for each other as do a man and a woman who wish to marry. He, as a celibate man, could not possibly know that.
Source: It’s not your call, Mark – » The Australian Independent Media Network
Throughout almost all of human existence there was no such thing as family and marriage. Family and marriage first appeared around the same time as agriculture: the two were symbiotic.
Source: Historically, the idea of marriage is always evolving
Poll finds that, among those who have already voted, 72% voted yes compared with 26% who voted no
A young Brisbane woman who was flying rainbow flags outside her house in support of same-sex marriage has had her windows smashed in with rocks in a late-night attack police said may be linked to three other incidents nearby.
Specifically, there is a strong and statistically significant association between higher cognitive ability and a greater likelihood to support equal rights between same- and different-sex couples.This may shed some light on why those who stand against equal rights may not be persuaded by evidence-based arguments in the ongoing same-sex marriage debate.
But in this case we’re talking about political journalists telling LGBTQI people how to argue that they should be given equal rights. If we’re going to put ourselves in the position of lecturing a minority on how to do something they’ve spent decades doing already – and really quite effectively – then wouldn’t we want a better success rate to point to?
During the conciliation, Delaney presented Porteous with a revised copy of the booklet, which removed the line “messing with marriage is messing with kids” and made minor changes throughout the document to make it clear the Church was talking about beliefs and teachings, not facts.It did not remove any teachings on marriage, nor did it ask that the church support same-sex marriage. But the offer was rejected — much to Delaney’s chagrin.”I made every attempt I could to assist the Catholic Church to be able to say what they believed, but do it in a respectful manner, and not say things like my partner and I raising a child is messing with kids,” Delaney told BuzzFeed News.
Source: “It’s Bullshit”: Woman Behind Tasmanian Archbishop Case Slams Religious Freedom Claims
A pile of rain-damaged envelopes destined for East Brunswick have been discovered in the CBD.
Source: Second pile of same-sex marriage surveys found dumped in Melbourne laneway
In a Q&A episode that began as a discussion of Australia’s energy woes, the biggest audience response was reserved for a man who made a passionate speech about same-sex marriage.
Fresh security concerns are raised over the same-sex marriage postal vote, after a Melbourne woman said she found a pile of surveys in a garden bed in the city’s inner north.
Patrick McGorry says Matt Canavan’s call for yes campaigners to ‘stop being delicate little flowers’ was ‘very regrettable’
With the postal survey campaign now in full swing, and with analysis suggesting opponents of marriage equality have outspent the yes campaign by about five-to-one in television ads, the latest poll shows 55% (down 4% from a fortnight ago) support changing the law to allow same-sex couples to marry and 34% (up 3%) are opposed.
The Australian Federal Police are being asked to investigate cases of people trying to sell their same sex-marriage survey forms.
The postal vote has been criticised for exposing children to hatred, with Labor senator Penny Wong labelling it as a damaging and expensive stunt to avoid having Parliament make a decision.
Presbyterian minister told the bride her support for same-sex marriage meant she could not hold her wedding at his church.
Source: Church cancels wedding because bride and groom supported gay marriage on Facebook
And she doesn’t want her kids “being read books with people kissing in it”.
Source: A Leading Marriage Equality Opponent Is Triggered By Kissing
As a paediatrician and from the research studied I know that kids from same-sex parented families are among the most wanted, loved and cared for children
The number of Canberra children in out of home care has increased by more than 30 per cent in three years.
Source: More Canberra kids in care as advocates call for community prevention
When John Guthrie and Dennis Cash announced their plan to foster teenagers almost 20 years ago their friends thought they had rocks in their head.
The ABS has asked websites to take them down.
Source: People Are Trying To Sell Their Same-Sex Marriage Survey Forms Online
Even though you don’t have to vote, you need to make the effort to be counted.
“Some behind the no campaign have conflated a yes vote with all manner of societal decay. It will impact negatively on the nation, the family, children, religion, freedom of speech and businesses.”
Source: Yes for equality, yes for love
I asked Peter McNeil, a fashion historian and author, to explain why the whole dress thing unleashes all these feelings. He says it’s only been for the past 600 or so years that men have worn pants.”The irony is that when men began wearing pants, all the moralists complained about them. Bernardino de Siena said parents were pimping out their sons by putting them in trousers.”And trousers provide free movement for all.Which brings me back to Cella White. I’m on board with her at least for pants. Vote yes for pants for girls and boys.And yes for same sex marriage. Thanks for putting me straight, Cella.
Source: Why I agree with No vote campaigner: let’s ban dresses at schools
I have long been involved in one of the key civil rights causes of our day: the struggle for marriage equality. As a lawyer in Canada in the past, I was involved in same-sex marriage litigation in that country. That was early in the last decade, around 2002. Ever since, I have written about the issue and engaged in debate about it. I now feel I’ve heard it all – all the arguments against marriage equality. And I feel very confident at this point saying that none of the arguments against marriage equality holds up in the light of logic.
The novelty of this debate is seeing how advocates from the Left perspective have marched in favour of same-sex marriage when marriage itself has lost its appeal to many progressives. The only argument left, then, is the equality of choice: same-sex couples should be perfectly entitled to enter into a flawed, anachronistic institution should they wish to. We should all be entitled to make our own mistakes.
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One Muslim leader says the community is torn between offending left-wing allies and siding with right-wing critics, but some leaders are starting to speak up.
Why isn’t Bolt including Muslims and migrants in his crusade for “no” and Why are Australian born Aussies Bolt’s favored Australians the most likely “yes ” voters. How out of sync with Australia is Andrew Bolt?
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The video features women calling “bullshit” on a number of claims made by mothers in the original ad, including the idea that school classes on gay relationships have become “compulsory” in countries where same-sex marriage laws have passed.Related Articles Principal denies mum’s TV claim that son could wear dress
Source: Backlash after The Project skewers controversial anti-marriage equality ad
“I learnt how a prince married a prince, and I can marry a princess!”
Source: Australia’s New Same-Sex Marriage TV Ads Have All Been Done Before
The No campaign is accused of making misleading claims about same-sex marriage following the release of an ad featuring claims boys will be encouraged to wear dresses to schools if the Yes vote gets up.
I see no evidence of it yet. That woman on the train doesn’t know I’m Gay Married — she doesn’t care. No upheaval has occurred in the U.K. since legalising gay marriage, so why would it in ours? If you want to talk religious argument, this is what I say to you: If you trust your Gods judgement, why don’t you let Him take care of the smiting? You sit back, chillax, love a little, let your hair down.
Just like the mistake climate change activists have been making for years (including me) in trying to argue with deniers, by arguing with the garbage from the no campaign, you give their position legitimacy and imbed the idea that there are uncertain outcomes from marriage equality. Instead, keep it simple. Keep it small. Rinse and repeat. Celebrate when the yes vote wins. And then the battle begins to get the yes vote through parliament.
Source: Marriage Equality Campaign Battlegrounds – » The Australian Independent Media Network
There are no reasonable or rational arguments to oppose marriage equality. The usual lines about the sanctity of the “nuclear family” and concerns over children will no doubt get a run but that is not what the survey is about.
Source: Why I’m voting yes: There are no rational arguments to oppose marriage equality
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