Category: MH17

The downing of Malaysia Airlines MH17 – Part 9 – » The Australian Independent Media Network

Tony Abbott and his Malaysian counterpart Prime Minister Najib Razak (image from www.itv.com)

The downing of Malaysia Airlines MH17 – Part 9 – » The Australian Independent Media Network.

MH-17 – Who can be trusted? a view from Pravda

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In the West anything coming out of Russia is false, fake and a lie. Minutes after Malaysian MH17 crashed Russia was to blame. So, when Channel One comes out with a video it was slammed as a lie by a country who voted for a communist president not once but twice. A photo was sent anonymously by email November 12th to the Russian Union of Engineers claiming that MH-17 was shot down by a Ukrainian jet. It was only shown as possible evidence not as absolute truth. However, I do not even have to see it because I know who the liar is.

Russia never said it was their satellite photo. “All versions have to be considered” Channel One said. Ivan Andrievskiy, the first vice-president of the Russian Union of Engineers, said the photo was made by a foreign spy satellite either American or British. In August, he goes on to say, “Russian Union of Engineers published its report on the possible causes of the accident citing that rocket and cannon was used by armament of another aircraft. There is no credible evidence of it being hit by a missile from the ground.”

“I fully agree with the results of your analysis of the causes of destruction of the” Boeing “- says a man using the alias name of George Bilt, a graduate of MIT, air expert with decades of experience. The ” Boeing “was shot down by a fighter jet chasing him. At first the jet fired an air cannon, then the cabin [of MH-17] was struck by an air to air missile, then the right engine and the right wing were damaged by a missile with a thermal homing system.”

CIA monitors the media like hawks and went to work with their army of bloggers contradicting the obvious. Reuters, head of the propaganda machine based in the UK wrote, “Several commentators who have examined the photographs have described them as forgeries.” America’s CBS shovels more crap by pointing out, “the plane was shot down by a mixed team of rebels and Russian military personnel who believed they were targeting a Ukrainian military plane.” The BBC proudly proclaims,”Web users debunk Russian TV’s MH17 claim” where they show a photo of the wreckage with bullet holes but still say “Western investigators say the plane was likely hit by shrapnel from a surface-to-air weapon”. Denial!

 

In a supposed interview Saturday with BuzzFeed , the man calling himself George Bilt said, “I had no knowledge or means of proving and researching if this was an authentic satellite photo or not (it was clearly available online since mid October – not really such a new discovery too)”. Buzzfeed titles their article, “Russian TV Airs Clearly Fake Image To Claim Ukraine Shot Down MH17” and goes on to claim the photos are fake without calling Bilt a fake and not admitting his name is not real. If you know they are fake why an interview? FYI, Buzzfeed has plagiarists like Benny Johnson.

Of course the US, Britain and Kiev’s puppet government call it fake. They are the ones who started the war in Ukraine. No offers from Obama or NATO to cooperate with Russia over this issue like Reagan and Gorbachev did in the past when their negotiations led to a nuclear treaty. Instead we get a statement from Admiral “I barely got a history degree at the University of South Florida” who explained the reason Russia is close to NATO today is because of Putin and has nothing to do with the expansion of NATO towards Russia- Rear Adm. John Kirby.

Unless you are in denial or have been asleep this century you must know of the wars America has started in the Middle East and Ukraine. How many wars has Russia started? How many troops has she sent overseas? None. Russia is close to Europe and offered Ukraine cheap gas and financial aid. That’s bad business for Chevron and other firms in the West. Ukraine Deal with the Devil: The Chevron Deal. The US overthrew the Kiev government and installed their long time friend Pudgy Poroshenko.

Obama supports his puppet and Jackass Joe Biden’s son was conveniently appointed to the board of directors at Ukraine’s Largest Gas Co. Remember when Cheney was attacked by the media for his ties with Halliburton? Bad then but OK now. Bad for Russia to help in Ukraine but OK for US to interfere. USA hypocrisy and greed growing exponentially. Yet this is old news. Read Rothbard’s book about US economic conquest in “Wall Street, Banks, and American Foreign Policy”

“Of course, Obama himself is deeply in the pocket of the finance industry. Goldman Sachs accounted for over $994,000 of Obama’s war chest. Lehman Brothers was the origin of $395,600, a record amount for the company second only to what Hillary Clinton received…in 2008 that Obama’s fat-cat donors included top executives from Wachovia, Washington Mutual, Citigroup, Deutsche Bank, Merrill Lynch, Bank of America, J.P. Morgan, Chase, Morgan Stanley, and Countrywide.”

“Hope and Change” meant new hopes and riches for the elite who like Gruber calls American people stupid. Jonathan Gruber, the creator of Obama Care feels it is necessary to deceive the stupid American people. Keep in mind Obama prides himself in being the most transparent government in history. Liars to the core. Wake up America. Your government cannot be trusted. It is run by the corporate elite and your computer voting will not get it done. The Republican’s compromise brings no hope because they are bought and paid for as well.

I will never believe news from a country that is after a “New World Order” and starts wars and violence around the world. Recently, General Numbnuts McNeely of the Pentagon, freely admitted in this video by Vovan222prank that he will send instructors to train Kiev Ukrainian troops. Those same troops have been attacking priests and innocent people of SE Ukraine who want independence. The US even has a bill S2277 to overthrow Russia and support NATO. Should I believe a country and her media that is hostile not only to Russia and her interests but the world itself?

Can I believe someone who still commits the Soviet mistake like Obama? CNBC anchor Geoff Cutmore said,”President Obama has accused you, as you know, of untruths when it comes to supporting some of the separatist groups in Ukraine…” President Vladimir Putin responded, “Who made him a judge? He’s not a judge. Why doesn′t he get a job in the judicial system then and work there? I don′t think Mr. Obama is accusing me of anything. He has his own perspective on certain processes, I have mine.” “He has his own perspective” means Obama has a reason to lie about the situation in the Ukraine.

President Vladimir Putin has encouraged foreigners to investigate the crash site and the OSCE did go there. He has asked foreign observers to monitor Russia’s voting process and they have come. Putin has helped the Church and defends it and is free to speak of his Christianity. We are free here in Russia where whistleblowers like Snowden find refuge. So it does not matter if the recent photos are fake. I know what the US is after in Ukraine and they are not sending humanitarian convoys like Russia did into Donbass. I have never believed a liar especially a greedy one. “The Land of the Free” is no more. The “Land of the Tsars” is where Christ still reigns.

Abbott declares war on Putin. Vigilante Diplomacy excercised by Abbott and Harper bears a similar approach to Saddam and weapons of mass destruction. Guilty because we say so.

Putin walks out of G20 summit early

Russian president says he left to get some sleep but move may be seen as snub after he was pressured over Ukraine.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has left the G20 summit in Australia early, live footage showed, after he came under intense pressure from the West over Moscow’s alleged support for separatist fights in eastern Ukraine.

Putin told reporters he was leaving before the release of the G20’s communique because of the long flight to Russia and he wanted to get some sleep, Reuters news agency reported.

In unusually frank language between two leaders, Stephen Harper, the Canadian prime minister, was reported to have told Putin as they shook hands to “get out of Ukraine”.

According to Jason MacDonald, Harper’s spokesman, the prime minister told the Russian leader: “I guess I will shake your hand but I have only one thing to say to you: You need to get out of Ukraine.”

British Prime Minister David Cameron was among other leaders who publicly criticised Russia, accusing it of “bullying a smaller state in Europe” and warning that Moscow would face further sanctions if it continues “destabilising Ukraine”.

Putin left on Sunday before the final communique from the weekend talks was issued, but attended the annual forum’s wrap-up lunch and praised the “constructive discussions”.

Speaking at a press conference broadcast on Russian television earlier, he said “some of our views do not coincide, but the discussions were complete, constructive and very helpful”.

Putin also thanked Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott for hosting the event.

GOD IS CATHOLIC AND TONY ABBOTT"S HIS SON & RUSSIA DID NOT DO IT ON PURPOSE

While Newton’s laws of motion have been found to be amazingly predictive and reliable. There are exceptions where Newtonian physics breaks down. The first involves objects travelling at or near the speed of light. The second problem comes when Newton’s laws are applied to particles that fall in the realm of quantum mechanics. Using Andrew Bolt’s logic Newton should be done and dusted and no longer taught in schools. If it had any political or economic relevance for  RET’s he would be calling it another ‘False God’ like Global Warming. The same for Einstein’s theories.
It doesn’t  matter  the true discourse is about  power, politics, economics the types of  energy sources,available and money. There is a lot of noise  about the failure of inductive logic, the lack of scientific method to provide definitive answers to Global Warming and quality of life when in fact it’s about self interest or otherwise called  national interest. Abbott and his town crier Bolt have found organisations such as the United Nations meddlers in the ‘free market’ hurdles to their notion of opportunity.
 Tony Abbott  in the past has had no regard for the United Nations as an organisation that hinders his specific national interests Sovereign Borders, Tasmanian Forests, The Great Barrier Reef etc The UN are an unnecessary irritant. At the moment however he is basking in the the light of Labour’s efforts to get Australia an elected seat on the Security Council. Basking because that light should have some effect on the pall over his personal opinion poll standing. The media at the moment have lauded Australia for what? It’s membership and leadership in the United Nations all due to Rudd’s and  Labour’s efforts which were readily derided by both Abbott and Bishop in parliament.
  Who else to roar for MH17, which of the ten non-permanent members of the Security Council could do that job of leading the resolution, None had any passengers on board.Argentina (2014),Australia (2014),Chad (2015),Chile (2015),Jordan (2015),Lithuania (2015),Luxembourg (2014),Nigeria (2015),Republic of Korea (2014),Rwanda (2014)  Australia alone had to take up the task. The Dutch and Malaysians are not members. What a better way to repair ones poll standing and keep the  opposition silent. It’s the coal-itions dream come true. This is the best thing to have happened to Abbott since the election. Watch him milk it.
Europe is being held to ransom by their reliance on Russia’s oil and gas pipe-lined through the Ukraine. Germany clearly saw that. Their energy policies were developed to counter this weakness. That’s why they are leaders in renewable energy production.
 Abbott and his town crier Bolt with mining industry support want to sell coal. What better way than  to block Russia’s fossil fuel export by calling for economic sanctions. They just might improve our currently threatened coal industry. Of course  they will continue to push the Global Warming Denier barrow but not for any  real scientific reason other than it’s an easy media filler. Is it a coincidence that a business-backed, mining group sponsored report was released today that our renewable energy target of 20% should be abolished because it will cost 5000 jobs and $29 bill by 2020. A report to counter the Government’s RET review that consumers would be better off by $56 a year from 2021. With the RET heading to become 28% of energy production the Australian Chamber of Commerce want it reined in. Power companies don’t want households running on free solar energy nor do mining companies with over 50 years of coal in the ground.
Abbott will call for sanctions on Russsia  in order to get them to retaliate and cut gas and oil to Europe. Australia will send troops to Ukraine just to ensure the likelihood of the above. They will put Australian lives at risk to achieve that aim.
Watch the price of coal go up because of a dumb accident by some rebel cowboys in the Ukraine that were given hardware they really didn’t know how to use. So much miscalculation all to Abbott’s advantage. Russia miscalculated Putin was not the mastermind of some terrorist plot.